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Devil's Advocate: Ram Jethmalani
Published on Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 20:45, Updated on Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 01:07 in India section
Tags: Devils Advocate, Karan Thapar , Karan Thapar
Karan Thapar: Forgive me. Can I correct and interrupt? They were supporting your right to defend Manu Sharma, I am not questioning that. I am now questioning the morality of the defence you are putting up, the ethics. You know what you are saying is untrue, but you are saying it nonetheless.
Ram Jethmalani: I know the ethics of my profession better than any journalist like you does. Please stop this kind of an argument, because I will not allow you to judge the morality of my actions. I am responsible to the court, to the profession and to the Bar Council, not you.
Karan Thapar: Mahatma Gandhi said that means are more important than ends, are you telling me that in the law, it's the other way round?
Ram Jethmalani: Not at all. But I am doing much better than Mahatma Gandhi in this case, I assure you.
Karan Thapar: You may be correct…
Ram Jethmalani: I am correct, there is no maybe correct.
Karan Thapar: But in the process, one thing you had you lost is your good name. Does it not matter to you?
Ram Jethmalani: I am sorry, it does not matter to me at all that I have lost my good name, judged by some people who are bad. Bad people will always judge me wrong, so it’s all right.
Karan Thapar: Your son is dismayed and disillusioned. Kamini Jaiswal, who has worked with you for 30 years, is also dismayed and disillusioned. Does it not matter to you?
Ram Jethmalani: It does not matter at all. My pity to them and my sympathy for them that they are doing something wrong. As I said, "Oh, Lord, forgive them for they know not what they do."
Karan Thapar: Jessica Lall's reputation is in your hands. She is a helpless girl who is dead. You are destroying it and you know you are doing it willfully. Is that not immoral?
Ram Jethmalani: You are going on repeating this bullshit… Repeated bullshit does not become wisdom. So, you go ahead and by all means, go on telling me this.
Karan Thapar: Repeated defiance is not wisdom either. That’s just obscenity.
Ram Jethmalani:It is. Defiance based on character and conscience is always desirable.
Karan Thapar: Are you a man of character? Is this the behaviour of a man of character?
Ram Jethmalani: Please do not get into this kind of bullshit, this is not done. This is not the way of holding an interview.
Karan Thapar: When there is almost a smile on your face and I am not sure if it is a smile or not, it's time for me to apologise for all the impertinence and to thank you for the interview.
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Too good Karan. I wish if we can have few good people like you in politics too.
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Karan wants that no one defends a convict whom he thinks is a criminal. For fair judgment both parties have
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both the gentlemen had their views and they were able to justify it. but what i feel is that a
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A brilliant interview done.My country needs bold intrviewers like karn thapar.As suttle journalisim is gulped by the powerfull like nothing
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Sorry to say Karan Saheb, that you seem to have no respect for anyone %26 totally gone berserk with some
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